Rebecca Goldstein´s Non-religious Naturalist Progress; Secular Is Not Naturalist

Rebecca Goldstein participated with J Peterson and WL Craig in a "Meaning of Life" discussion. She wants to assert that naturalism and progress are coherent. She made certain claims.... Green Peacemst 2 minutes ago (edited) I am really grateful to Dr. Craig for his philosophical brilliance, although I am also grateful for my background in Bio Anthro, liberal arts, and Intl Relations, and more, to see that his arguments have greater implications, and call for illuminating those implications. As with Rebecca Goldstein´s insistence that progress can be naturalistic. I like the example of slavery. After 2,500 years up to the birth of Christ, slavery existed in ancient Greece that was conquered by the Romans. The Romans enslaved the women and children taken at Corinth in 146 BC/E after slaughtering all the men. Clearly, Spartacus led a slave rebellion some seventy years later. The end of slavery was accomplished after 1840 years in the West in an unprecedented act, and in the way it was accomplished. A young college grad T Clarkson, sought out a high integrity denomination the Quaker-Friend Christians to anchor his efforts. A major ally in Parliament, W Wilberforce had had a distinct Christian conversion experience. The US North´s states also ended slavery, with the Quaker-Friends playing a major role among others with many Christians. That was the origin of modern social movements, with Susan B Anthony a Quaker daughter and anti-slavery veteran. She was involved with the Unitarians a bit and became good friends with the non-theist Elizabeth Cady Stanton. For Goldstein to claim that "God wasn´t part of the women´s movement," we have to ask, "If Christians developed religious tolerance in Hugo Grotius, J Locke, and T Jefferson, what is the cultural environment of any atheists like EC Stanton? Is describing it as "unaffected by God or religion" historically and sociologically accurate? Secular is not actually naturalist. That argument also applies to science, i.e. scientific philosophy, actually. And that means "naturalists." Science was not achieved in its modern systemic form by the Greeks. The people who achieved systemic "science" were Christians oriented by their theistic psychosocial and cultural beliefs.