What Proof Do You Have of Sin?

In relation to a video of WL Craig, P Atkins on "What Science Cannot Do" Sal Bis • 14 hours ago What proof do you have of sin? • Reply • Share › − Avatar greenpeaceRdale1844coop Sal • 7 minutes ago • edited Oh my, now there´s a sign of modern times. As Craig mentions, Nazi scientific evil versus Western democratic scientific bombs requires understanding the value of human life. Moral considerations have been extended to question the US´s use of the bomb, no less. FDR and Eleanor were wealthy, but raised with the Social Gospel that followed Washington Gladden´s and Jane Addam´s projects and lifeworks, no less. In the US, pro-rich theology promoted by the rich in opposition to FDR´s pro-social policies is one major influence, no less than scientific materialism´s anti-religious orientation as if it can´t take a higher moral ground than anti-science religious episodes. Truth to tell, scientists not uncommonly lose touch with Christian society´s roots in the morality of Jesus´ loving Commandments, not historic or modern oppressive religious authorities funded by profiteering corp execs and their materialism. Incest taboos and patricide taboos are among the oldest examples of undesirable behaviors being identified and formalized as prohibitions in cultural rules. While scientific philosophy itself can identify the genetic problems of inbreeding, psychology can lead the identification of the problem of dysfunctional family dynamics. Even before the modern psychology of mental and psychosocial health, laws already recognized undesirable behaviors, with Moses´ top 10 Commandments a fine analysis of some good foundations. Your kind of question is an interesting demonstration of secular pluralist ideology and the larger confusion of understanding, on top of anti-religious materialism. "Since experts know it all, just do it, you know you want to" or "Society is anonymous, and nobody will catch me" typify some attitudes that circulate, with the sad stories of Ted Kaczynski the Harvard educated brilliant mathematician Unabomber and Bill Ivins the anthrax killer microbiologist fine examples. "Mental illness" and "pathology" are, however, conveniently used as metaphor for "psychos" with serial killer films like "Seven" with Brad Pitt at least attempting to represent the traditional Seven Deadly Sins and the modern secular disconnect. At best, they implied the need to reconnect with what are best called spiritual objectives, although films like Fisher King, Analyze This!, Patch Adams, A Civil Action (environmental pollution and people sick and killed by business-chemical procedures), and New In Town (employee ownership). "Sin" is a term that has been delegitimized by the need to shift the basis of Christian-derived University-based civilization, now globalized under the UN. Mental health, social responsibility, human rights, and sustainability are all excellent bases to do so. And that means bringing it back into vogue, but with new insight that in fact honors the spirit of the man who said, "Where are the people who wanted to stone you, dear lady? Go now, and sin no more." To be fair, his teachings significantly include the urge to spiritual practice, "seek first the Kingdom of Heaven" and "clean the cup on the inside where there is wickedness." The way Christian-derived University-based society led to CC Bonney´s inspired 1893 Chicago Parliament of World Religions is no less key to avoid the unacknowledged sin of "hypocrisy for control through literalism that kills the spirit of loving understanding for redemption." Buddhist meditation and Bill W et al´s Alcoholics Anonymous 12 step programs are key examples of modern resources.